Wear tear from long term training osteoarthritis

[darrenG10]

As we continue to train for 15-20-30 plus years our joints get wear and tear most of us have this it doesn’t mean it will progress and worsen but it’s definitely happening from prolonged training but it’s also benefit to lift with wear tear osteoarthritis is the name cartilage damage

we need too make sure our inflammation is kept down blood test c reactive protein crp is normal and few others

Supplement
Msm 6g morning 6g night
Vitamin c 5g vitamin c space out with each meal
collagen type 2 powder
tumeric blank pepper caps

There is few more supps

And hormones
Eq deca var primo ment all promote collagen synthesis eq being the best it effects all collagen type 1-2-3 we want type 1-2 mainly

Hgh also good for this

another stretch warm up correctly

If anyone else has things they would use let’s discuss as we love live for this let’s keep healthy joints and continue our progression

 

[Functional Fitness]

Strange post from someone who is only 30 (OP).

How can someone at 30 talk about long term training and wear and tear after 15-20-30 years?

Mmm...The mind boggles.

Copy/Paste as always from this member from other websites. No actual real life/world experience.

 

[darrenG10]

Strange post from someone who is only 30 (OP).

How can someone at 30 talk about long term training and wear and tear after 15-20-30 years?

Mmm...The mind boggles.

Copy/Paste as always from this member from other websites. No actual real life/world experience.

Because I’ve trained for 16 years harder than you ever have with heavier weights than you ever have

my logs show some of it with photos unlike you

rarely stretched which caused more tension on the joint cartilage from being overly tight muscles

confirmed wear tear osteoarthritis in joint.
copy paste erm it was written out what do you mean no real life experience you are a guy behind a computer with a failed life

Life is tough for everyone right now but hopefully it’s killing you harder than anyone else I’ve got no respect or feelings for you and wish nothing good for people like you

Difference with me and you I’m real I don’t hide I say it truthfully I say it like it is nothing is fake or a online fake personality

I’m not one to cry on forums when again nobody knows you

with no photos
Nobody knows who you are
we’ve all questioned who you are


Nobody on here likes you it’s all fake buddy it’s genuinely funny that you think anyone cares if only you knew

Fair enough you contributed but your writing more hateful jealous postings which is then shutting down threads every time you cause trouble and try winding me up


Let’s all keep pretending that you are liked on here though you are a scum bag a absolute total cunt given U.K. muscle vibes you think your free to talk the way you like thinking the mods are relaxed on here

Your wife is dyslexic and backward so don’t go slagging people buddy (me)
(you stated this in pm when apologising)

if you are so tough give me a phone call

 

[BertyB]

Agree totally Daz.. but I think the best thing for longevity in this game is to avoid ( as much as possible ) ego lifting.. training heavy is one thing.. but max lifting constantly for years causes havoc.. I've torn a pec had rotator cuff surgery and a torn quad tendon.
You kind of get away with it when your younger.. but when we start getting past 30 maybe 35... things start wearing out.. last thing you want to do is admit it.
But its ficking real.. and we need to train and supplement smarter. Bodybuilding isnt powerlifting.. First advice I give new guys is to know the difference.. and train to your goals.

 

[darrenG10]

Agree totally Daz.. but I think the best thing for longevity in this game is to avoid ( as much as possible ) ego lifting.. training heavy is one thing.. but max lifting constantly for years causes havoc.. I've torn a pec had rotator cuff surgery and a torn quad tendon.
You kind of get away with it when your younger.. but when we start getting past 30 maybe 35... things start wearing out.. last thing you want to do is admit it.
But its ficking real.. and we need to train and supplement smarter. Bodybuilding isnt powerlifting.. First advice I give new guys is to know the difference.. and train to your goals.

Great post mate this is something I wish I could have went back in time and changed and definitely stretched more sometimes we don’t see our ego lifting but definitely now more slow control and purely focused on the pump

I think you can still grow even better this way

 

[Thecoms]

If you havn’t got some aches and pains are you even a bodybuilder lol
I have always pyramided my sets and believe this has helped soo much , 40 years of training and still at it
I too wish I had stretched more ….

 

[darrenG10]

If you havn’t got some aches and pains are you even a bodybuilder lol
I have always pyramided my sets and believe this has helped soo much , 40 years of training and still at it
I too wish I had stretched more ….

yeah you’ll never not feel pain I feel pain without training lol we can only manage it the best we can and unfortunately some have better health genetics than others.

 

[Functional Fitness]

40 years of training and still at it

What training styles/routines have you used over the last couple of years and what's the reason you still train? What are your goals these days? I've got a serious interest in the type of splits other mature lifters follow when making size and strength gains aren't the priority or goal anymore.

 

[TreneBrahh]

I can agree with Darren. Age is not a factor in whether you will have issues with your bones and joints like FT seems to think. Just because you're 30 doesn't mean you can't develop wear and tear. Did you know children can develop arthritis? I'm 32 and have been training for 12 years, as of writing this I have tendon pain in my forearms, joint pain in my shoulders and painful knees and all from 12 years of training. Plus the weight gain is never good for your joints either. So yes, it can happen in young age people... Every time I read a post from Functional Fitness he's picking a fight with some one. I don't think he likes you very much Darren..

 

[darrenG10]

I can agree with Darren. Age is not a factor in whether you will have issues with your bones and joints like FT seems to think. Just because you're 30 doesn't mean you can't develop wear and tear. Did you know children can develop arthritis? I'm 32 and have been training for 12 years, as of writing this I have tendon pain in my forearms, joint pain in my shoulders and painful knees and all from 12 years of training. Plus the weight gain is never good for your joints either. So yes, it can happen in young age people... Every time I read a post from Functional Fitness he's picking a fight with some one. I don't think he likes you very much Darren..

Great post mate spot on

honestly I don’t loose sleep over this faceless guy so his opinion on this board means nothing zero respect

 

[Thecoms]

What training styles/routines have you used over the last couple of years and what's the reason you still train? What are your goals these days? I've got a serious interest in the type of splits other mature lifters follow when making size and strength gains aren't the priority or goal anymore.

I train one bodypart a workout , volume training , pyramid each exercise , then come back down with slow reps.
You accept limitations them progress is limited ? Still one of strongest in my gym because of my mind set
Age is just a number , you keep on going ….

 

[Functional Fitness]

I train one bodypart a workout , volume training , pyramid each exercise , then come back down with slow reps.
You accept limitations them progress is limited ? Still one of strongest in my gym because of my mind set
Age is just a number , you keep on going ….

I only train each muscle group once a week too and agree with the volume approach for intelligent lifting but that’s just the split I follow when I’m cruising. I’ll usually pick 6-8 movements per bodypart for 6 sets of 12-15 using no higher than 50% 1RM. I’ve trained like that for about 15 years now and never had a single injury or health issue. The only trade off was dropping quite a bit of mass in the process but once I got a grip of my ego and stopped chasing size and bodyweight…. the health and physical benefits became clear and aesthetically I looked better (and felt better) than when I was bigger.

When I’m blasting I switch to a push/pull split and hit upper body twice a week with 1 dedicated leg day and I’d probably do a 2nd leg day if I didn’t ride a bike as much as I do. Again I stick with 6 sets but I lower the volume to 3-4 movements per bodypart and aim for 4 to 6 reps at 60-70% 1RM. My physique always transforms on this split and I get really thick and grainy from shocking the body with this training style once or twice each year.

This post isn’t meant to be advice for anyone though. I’m just sharing personal real life experiences and hoping it might help some other ageing/mature guys to keep training consistently instead of constantly being in pain and needing surgeries to repair damage from ego lifting and not recognizing the early warning signs when your body is telling you to slow things down and make changes.

 

[Thecoms]

Tried push / pull at start of bulk just couln’t get on with it , the principle behind it made a lot of sense ? However in practice I hated it , mainly on the push side of routine. Never felt I had done enough for chest or shoulders and triceps at end felt like a chore

 

[Functional Fitness]

Tried push / pull at start of bulk just couln’t get on with it , the principle behind it made a lot of sense ? However in practice I hated it , mainly on the push side of routine. Never felt I had done enough for chest or shoulders and triceps at end felt like a chore

Keep doing what you're doing if it works for you mate and keeps you motivated to train.
I'd be interested to read more specific details about your "pyramid style split" and what movements/lifts/reps/sets you use in your sessions (but I'm not bothered about the amount of weight you can lift, or you showing your face, or you posting pics of yourself flexing your muscles to prove you're an experienced lifter, like the silly youngster fanboys posting in this thread seem to think is important and necessary to gain their unwanted and useless "respect" LOL).

The words you type will be good enough for me to draw my own conclusions and possibly add ideas that maybe I can use in my own training splits
Feel free to post your split (detailed) if you've got time spare to share it

 

[Thecoms]

Basically its volume training , one bodypart per session. I do each exercise in sets of 6.
First set 15-20 , 2nd set 10 - 12, 2 sets 6-8.
Then i come back down in weights for last 2 sets , weight used is irrelevant at this point ? I do slow reps , so time under tension increases and finish them off with partials until I cant move weight anymore ?
I may do 4 exercises in a workout for chest back and shoulders , less for arms.
So bigger bodyparts may get 24 sets ?
This may seem excessive to some , but they only get done once a week , so plenty of recovery time
Each bodypart gets smashed and then has plenty of time to recover.
I have tried all manner of routines and this works well for me. I can see the benefit of other splits and why they work for others ?
More training of a bodypart in a week etc
Just couldn’t get into it , the pull part worked i.e back and biceps but the push didn’t , was struggling mentally by time I got to triceps and couldn’t give it my all …
In the past did chest & back then shoulders & arms and that was okay too.
It’s all about finding what works for you ?

 

[ADAM1]

Basically its volume training , one bodypart per session. I do each exercise in sets of 6.
First set 15-20 , 2nd set 10 - 12, 2 sets 6-8.
Then i come back down in weights for last 2 sets , weight used is irrelevant at this point ? I do slow reps , so time under tension increases and finish them off with partials until I cant move weight anymore ?
I may do 4 exercises in a workout for chest back and shoulders , less for arms.
So bigger bodyparts may get 24 sets ?
This may seem excessive to some , but they only get done once a week , so plenty of recovery time
Each bodypart gets smashed and then has plenty of time to recover.
I have tried all manner of routines and this works well for me. I can see the benefit of other splits and why they work for others ?
More training of a bodypart in a week etc
Just couldn’t get into it , the pull part worked i.e back and biceps but the push didn’t , was struggling mentally by time I got to triceps and couldn’t give it my all …
In the past did chest & back then shoulders & arms and that was okay too.
It’s all about finding what works for you ?

Very similar to my workout program mate.
Works for me as well & keeps me motivated by varying which movements I do.

 

[Functional Fitness]

varying which movements I do.

This is really important to me in terms of staying motivated these days. I switch things around every 2-3 months and hit muscle groups from different angles. I'd probably quit training completely if I didn't keep adding variety to my splits.

 

[ADAM1]

This is really important to me in terms of staying motivated these days. I switch things around every 2-3 months and hit muscle groups from different angles. I'd probably quit training completely if I didn't keep adding variety to my splits.

Likewise, I often make small changes week to week also.
Do them in a different order, super sets if possible, vary weight & reps.
Change is good.

 

[BertyB]

Basically its volume training , one bodypart per session. I do each exercise in sets of 6.
First set 15-20 , 2nd set 10 - 12, 2 sets 6-8.
Then i come back down in weights for last 2 sets , weight used is irrelevant at this point ? I do slow reps , so time under tension increases and finish them off with partials until I cant move weight anymore ?
I may do 4 exercises in a workout for chest back and shoulders , less for arms.
So bigger bodyparts may get 24 sets ?
This may seem excessive to some , but they only get done once a week , so plenty of recovery time
Each bodypart gets smashed and then has plenty of time to recover.
I have tried all manner of routines and this works well for me. I can see the benefit of other splits and why they work for others ?
More training of a bodypart in a week etc
Just couldn’t get into it , the pull part worked i.e back and biceps but the push didn’t , was struggling mentally by time I got to triceps and couldn’t give it my all …
In the past did chest & back then shoulders & arms and that was okay too.
It’s all about finding what works for you ?

I used to do chest and back.. then shoulders arms... then legs. Recently swapped to push pull legs... push is a long one.. but I'm enjoying the change. I do shoulders before chest as they need more work at min..